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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 2 weeks ago #7977

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I've talked to a couple of people about the idea of having a "virtual" (video-conference) based JUG meetup for those who live in parts of the country that don't have the local availability or frequency of meetings to meet their needs—technical and/or social. While none of us has been able to offer a proven low-cost technical solution (at this time) I would like to float the idea with the community.

The goals of the "virtual JUG" are not too dissimilar from the real-life version: a regular but not too-frequent meeting of people to (perhaps) hear a presentation on a Joomla-related topic, to exchange different perspectives on a topic worthy of discussion, and (perhaps) to seek help or pointers about how to address a particular problem that's weighed on their minds.

There are several groupware products that may serve this purpose (e.g. Skype) but we're aware that these products have their limitations in terms of how many people they can accommodate at the one time, how to moderate the discussion so that one does not have a farrago of interjections that would make the experience unenjoyable, while still permitting a free-flowing discussion among the participants. I, personally, have used a few different group-discussion videoconferencing products and there are benefits with some of them and problems with all of them.

Short of obtaining a professional studio, equipped with camera operators, a director, a panel of "experts", a moderator and someone to voice-cue the moderator when a new question arrives from the "twittersphere", say, I don't think we need to aim quite that high.

In any event, this is not something that we're considering will happen for a couple of months.

I'm raising this issue now to let people contribute their thoughts (no matter how off-the-top-of-the-head they may be), practical or impractical.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 2 weeks ago #7979

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Hi

That sounds like a good idea

rotating roles ie chairperson for the month, twitter feed reader for the month could work.

Whatever is decided, I'm keen

Thanks Sozzled

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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 2 weeks ago #7980

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I've discussed this idea with Walter and Michael and we are looking at kicking off a virtual JUG in early 2017.

There are a few questions to answer:
1. Technology to use?

Skype group call can contain 25 participants but only the first 5 on mobile or 10 on desktop clients with be able to transmit video.
Also need to meet bandwidth requirements
support.skype.com/en/faq/FA1417/how-much...idth-does-skype-need

Google Hangouts call can contain 25 participants, it will only show “the 10 most active video call participants” along the bottom of the video chat to maintain quality, but it will switch on the fly between active users for the new limit of up to 25 participants.

Paid service such as Webex, Zoom etc (where would funding come from for this?)


2. Format of the meetings?
Do we want a main presentation (like Sydney CBD JUG) each month, followed by a general Q&A session? If so, do we repeat presentations from our regular JUG meetings (where possible)?

Or do we want more informal meeting (like South West Sydney JUG), where we go round the table and share what we are working on and what questions or issues we have.

Or some other format (please offer a suggestion on how you'd like it to work)


3. Frequency of meetings?
I think we should start with monthly meetings, and see how that goes.


4. How we handle RSVP?
Do we use Meetup (such as existing Sydney JUG meetup page), or some other method.
Do we set a limit on the number of attendees (I guess that depends on technology chosen)? Do we have some sort of priority system based on current access to JUG group meetings, so those more remote don't miss out?


I'm interested to hear any feedback and ideas.

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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 1 week ago #7984

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This sounds like a good idea and I may be interested.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 1 week ago #7987

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We previously used Google Hangouts to great effect for this sort of thing.

What ever you use, if time is WA friendly I'll be in.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 1 week ago #7995

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Not having had opportunity to joing/participate in a JUG in Perth, would be also interested in the virtual format.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 5 days ago #7997

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I would be interested in "attending" too, even though I have the Brisbane JUG within reach, I'm not always able to go.

Tim, in response to your items ...

1. Perhaps we start off with a free solution and if the virtual JUG becomes successful and popular, I could sponsor if everyone felt that a paid solution would be better.

2. I like the idea of a presentation format, but it's good to mix in an informal discussion meeting every now and then, or a bit of a show and tell maybe.

3. Monthly sounds good to me.

4. Could you use Google Hangouts? Google+ has changed a lot recently, so I'm not sure how the Hangouts and Events work now, I'll have to have more of a look around.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 5 days ago #8001

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Regarding delivery platforms, there are a number of Open Source options such as bigbluebutton.org/. I could easily set up a server on AWS that we activate on an as required basis thus avoiding ongoing AWS costs as as only pay for the time its up. Happy to provide this myself.
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A "virtual JUG" 1 year 4 days ago #8007

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I love this idea! Happy to sponsor a GoToMeeting or other commercial virtual meeting account if that helps get things going. And always keen to take part in meetings each month.
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A "virtual JUG" 11 months 2 weeks ago #8033

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Cool guys,

what ever way you want to do it, just set up a improtued meetup on a meetup page somewhere and invite everyone too it.

Google Hangouts has worked well for me in the past as it controls conversations but allows for text chat still rather than an all in chat.

Eitherway, would be good to see someone get it up and running.
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